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Old 03-22-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Taking Terror to Terrorist
Israel is taking terror to terrorist. They took out "The" Hamas leader today with a rocket attack so powerful that the biggest body part left was the man's head. Reports say that Sheik Yassin planed and directed all suicide bombings on Israel.

Israel does not broadcast what they are going to do, just what they did. The United States released several weeks ago about "a spring offensive in Afghanistan." That offensive is now in progress. Maybe we can learn something from Israel. I don't want to know what we are planning, just what was accomplished after a mission.
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The worst thing they ever did was televise the war.Now everyone feels like they need to know everything that is going on.What "they" fail to realize is that what is shown of t.v. isn't the tip of the iceburg on what's really happening over there.The military tells the public just enough to shut them up without putting them into a full-blown panic.I don't feel that they need to know that much.
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Forgive me if this takes another detour.

bin Laden and his gang is sitting deep in their caves in Afghanistan, watching these 9/11 hearings on their satellite TV and laughing their *****es off. Here we are, with troops still on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and our leaders are on TV trying to point fingers at each other on who screwed up. Being an election year, things will get even more nastier. Clinton, being a draft-dodger himself, could not bring it upon himself to put troops in harms way. Not after the first WTC bombing, the Embassy bombings, the Kolbar Towers bombing and the USS Cole bombing. His answer was to send cops out with a warrant.

Sending troops into battle is the hardest decision a president makes. All other options have been exhausted and there is no other choice. Bush decided to take the fight to the terrorist in Afghanistan instead of waiting for the next strike. Saddam was probably connected to the terrorist. Any way he was a threat to us. No WMD's have been found. He ACTED like he had something when he did not let the inspectors do their jobs. All he had to do was cooperate with them and convince them he had none. Then we would not have a valid reason to attack under UN rules. France, Germany and Russia was making money on the "Oil for Food" program and didn't help us. Now after Spain looses 190 in the train attacks, they are turning tail and running.

Most of us know at least one person who is in harms way either in Iraq or Afghanistan or even both places. Conducting these hearings and trying to place blame is not, in my opinion, proper. How would you be feeling if you went to the TV room over there to relax and all you saw was people arguing over why you are sitting in the middle of a sand box or perched on the side of a mountain.
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The troops deserve all the support we can give them. That's really a given I believe. Regardless if the war or reasons for it are just or unjust, soldiers deserve our respect.

I feel, however, any disussion about war needs to be done publicly. Whether Bush meant to or not, his reasons for going to war with Iraq were decieving. No one is denying at this point the fact there is no link between 9-11 and Saddam Hussein, and no one has been able to really prove a link between him and Al Qaeda. It was definately a great day when we caught Hussein, and I know Iraq will be better off now because of it. When you consider how many American lives have been lost to accompolish it, was it worth it? Are we really safer now that Hussein is locked up? It wasn't the Iraq army that attacked us with air strikes, it was some crazed Al Qaeda followers who flew our own planes into the WTC.

If we had killed Saddam Hussein back when Bush Sr. attacked him, would that have prevented 9-11? I would have to say no. We're doing the right thing in Afghanistan. Bin Laden is probably dead by now--considering his medical condition and obvious living arrangements. We got a hold on Al Qaeda early. and we should have kept our concentration there. We've since proved there were no WMD's in Iraq, so letting the inspectors continue what they were doing would not have hindered the fight on terror or decreased our own safety here in America.

Bush, if he even had a hint his reasons for war were not completely just, needs to be held accountable; politics doesn't (or shouldn't) have anything to do with it.

Back to the original topic though Isreal did the right thing. Even if the means was wrong, the end was just. Terrorists are made, not born--best kill the ones that are making them.
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Just an update for the folks back home on this whole terrorists subject. As of today (26march04) we have made a vast improvement on some of the high valued folks. That is all i can say really
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Thank you, lost_n_ny for all you and the others are doing over there.
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On my March 25 post I stated bin Laden was sitting in his cave watching these 9/11 hearings on TV. See today's Demopolis Times editorial cartoon. Great minds think alike.
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i think that bush should have waited for more international support...because of his rash thinking and piss-poor planning, over 450 civilian contractors and soldiers have been killed since he called a halt to major combat operations in iraq...all his actions have done are create instability and re-inforce anti-american imperialism worldwide...the beauty of history is that you can learn from your mistakes. the changing of governments is not something that you can expect to go by smoothly; just look at the change of russia from communism to capitalism...it was a failure for many years...with the help of the UN, the transition of government in iraq would be going much more smoothly...and with worldwide support, the united states would not have to shoulder this terrible burden at the expense of so many young soldiers lives
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Bush tried to get the UN to go into Iraq and have Saddam live up to all the resolutions against him. We are beginning to uncover where France, Germany and Russia were making money on the sanctions and why they did not want to help us oust Saddam. France has never cooperated with the U.S. when it came to dealing with the Middle East. Our planes could not even fly over France when we hit Libya in 1996. Yes we are losing a lot of our military personnel. We will lose many more before this operation is over. If Clinton had taken actions during his two terms, we would not be in Iraq or Afghanistan. Clinton cut and ran in Somolia when the "Blackhawk Down" event happened. Bush won't run from Iraq because some of our civilian security contractors were dragged through Fallujah. We are now, at this moment, responding to that action with our Marines in "Operation Vigilant Resolve". Nothing was done after the Kolbar Towers bombing or the USS Cole bombing. The events of 9/11 changed everything. Bush took the only option available after the UN chickened out and was going to let Saddam slide by again. Did you notice we had no help from the UN when we went into Afghanistan? We basically did that operation ourselves. We have to take the fight on terrorism where ever it takes us. If we have to fight alone, then so be it.

This war in Iraq, more so than Vietnam where I served, has a direct effect on our freedom. Vietnam was about keeping South Vietnam democratic and not communist. The South Vietnamese just did not want freedom as much as the North wanted a united communist country. I don't recall a single event of a VC or NVA killing Americans on our own soil. We have lost over 3000 to terrorist attacks. I believe Saddam was backing bin Laden in his attacks against us. Saddam himself was a threat against us. Just by his own words and actions.

Our troops are serving and dying with honor to keep you safe. They would rather fight where they are than have more events like 9/11. As you go about your life today think about our troops stationed around the world, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan. When you watch the NCAA finals tonight, think how they would like to be sitting in the sports bar with you watching the game, having some wings and a cool one. They would love to be able to sit back in their favorite chair at home watching the opening day baseball game on TV. And oh how they miss their children's first steps, little league games, dance recitlals and graduations. Instead they will be at their duty stations ready for the next threat.

We must continue to support our troops as long as they are in harm's way.
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Kinda makes you feel a little ungreatful, doesn't it "schmidt"?
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I agree with Lowerpool Lover and Sarge. We all have friends and/or family over fighting for our freedom. I firmly believe that going into Iraq when we did was the best thing for our country and the world. While we didn't have UN support, it is quite obvious that we had international support by all the countries that have or had troops in Iraq with us. Our men and women of the Armed Forces are fighting for our freedom and trying to prevent more tragedies like 9/11. Schmidt, would you like more things like that to happen??

Yes, regretfully, we have lost many soldiers and civilians in Iraq. However, this is war and we need to expect fatalities no matter what.

We did not ask to be the target of the terrorists - we have gone to finish the job they started on 9/11 (and prior!).
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