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Old 09-25-2008   #1 (permalink)
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School Believing in abortion?

Okay, first of all I realize this isn't a pretty subject, in fact it appalls me personally. BUT I want to know what people mean when they say they don't "believe in abortion," then turn around and say that they support a woman's right to choose. I believe 'in' abortion, because it is everywhere but I don't believe 'in' GETTING an abortion unless of course the pregnancy is a product of rape, incest or when a Mother's life is in real danger. Now I realize that this is a deep-and I mean a really deep and touchy subject and that everyone has their own opinion. I am not here to bash or judge, just wanting to know what people mean when they say that and what is the majority here on this particular subject.

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Re: Believing in abortion?

I don't believe the government should be able to tell a person what to do with their body. I think that should be between them and their doctor and their God. Could I have an abortion, I don't think so, do I have a right to tell you that you can't have an abortion, I don't think so. There may be a good reason, or not, for you to have an abortion. None of my business. However if you feel (and this is your feeling and nobody elses) you need one, I don't want to see you going in a nasty back room somewhere where you can get all kinds of infections that can kill you, to get it. At least if it is legal you can have some councel. If it is not a good reason for you to abort then that is between you, your doctor, and your God. This is just my opinion, you don't have to have the same. Just don't tell me what to do with my body.

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Re: Believing in abortion?

I used to believe that the only time an abortion should be a choice was when the case was rape or incest or something of that nature. However, somewhere around 1994 while I was in the USAF I had a preacher that I worked with tell me simply, "Regardless of HOW the baby was conceived....God does NOT make mistakes, and to abort a baby for ANY reason was saying that God made the mistake of allowing that baby to be conceived." Needless to say that totally changed my view on the subject. I'm against it 100% regardless of the situation, period. I've heard some people say, "well, the child would remind me of the rape that caused him/her to come into this world." Bull******, you'd be too busy watching that child grow up, take there first steps, say their first words and listening to that child come up to you out of nowhere for the first time and say, "I wub you!" Regardless of my political affiliation, that is MY view of it and I'm 100% plus some against it in ANY case.

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I used to believe that the only time an abortion should be a choice was when the case was rape or incest or something of that nature. However, somewhere around 1994 while I was in the USAF I had a preacher that I worked with tell me simply, "Regardless of HOW the baby was conceived....God does NOT make mistakes, and to abort a baby for ANY reason was saying that God made the mistake of allowing that baby to be conceived." Needless to say that totally changed my view on the subject. I'm against it 100% regardless of the situation, period. I've heard some people say, "well, the child would remind me of the rape that caused him/her to come into this world." Bull******, you'd be too busy watching that child grow up, take there first steps, say their first words and listening to that child come up to you out of nowhere for the first time and say, "I wub you!" Regardless of my political affiliation, that is MY view of it and I'm 100% plus some against it in ANY case.
I am with you here as far as our morals, I believe the same way but with a slight twist. I do agree with Sweet Pea here about the nasty back-room abortion clinics and the simple fact that the Government should not be able to tell me what to do with my own body. WHICH I WOULDN'T KILL MY BABY, God knows that...as I have 5 children. However; it is also my personal belief that God gave us our own will, to decide for ourselves between right and wrong. I don't think anyone can ever change the fact that abortions are going to happen, regardless of my stand or ANY political parties' stand on it.

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I used to believe that the only time an abortion should be a choice was when the case was rape or incest or something of that nature. However, somewhere around 1994 while I was in the USAF I had a preacher that I worked with tell me simply, "Regardless of HOW the baby was conceived....God does NOT make mistakes, and to abort a baby for ANY reason was saying that God made the mistake of allowing that baby to be conceived." Needless to say that totally changed my view on the subject. I'm against it 100% regardless of the situation, period. I've heard some people say, "well, the child would remind me of the rape that caused him/her to come into this world." Bull******, you'd be too busy watching that child grow up, take there first steps, say their first words and listening to that child come up to you out of nowhere for the first time and say, "I wub you!" Regardless of my political affiliation, that is MY view of it and I'm 100% plus some against it in ANY case.
Those are valid points and to a large extent I agree with you. You were able to make up your own mind about the issue based on your own beliefs, and in fact were able to change your mind over time as your beliefs changed. You were able to choose as your conscience dictated.

I think all of these decisions are personal decisions that each individual should be free to make for themselves, without the intervention of the government in any way. That's what I mean when I say I don't support abortion ("I don't encourage or advocate it") but I am pro-choice ("Nobody should be able to make that choice for anyone else").

Add to that equation the fact that I will never be pregnant myself, and it gives me even more reason to stay out of the choices someone who actually is pregnant should be able to make.
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What? Re: Believing in abortion?

Okay, now humor me here for a minute. The Federal Government tells me that if I use my hand to pick up my gun and my finger to fire it, killing someone or even severely wounding them WILL POSSIBLY get me the death penalty. Thus telling me what I can and can't do with my body. Using the same irony and now applying this to abortion...how is this issue much different? How can any Government tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies (any part of it) when it comes to using a gun or using a Dr.? Hope this makes sense. Again, I am not bashing or judging anyone here, just trying to get to the heart of the matter and why it is always part of a Political Campaign when no matter what the Constituents 'beliefs' are, nothing EVER changes...

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Okay, now humor me here for a minute. The Federal Government tells me that if I use my hand to pick up my gun and my finger to fire it, killing someone or even severely wounding them WILL POSSIBLY get me the death penalty. Thus telling me what I can and can't do with my body. Using the same irony and now applying this to abortion...how is this issue much different? How can any Government tell us what we can and can't do with our bodies (any part of it) when it comes to using a gun or using a Dr.? Hope this makes sense. Again, I am not bashing or judging anyone here, just trying to get to the heart of the matter and why it is always part of a Political Campaign when no matter what the Constituents 'beliefs' are, nothing EVER changes...
When I started reading this I though you were going to pick up that gun and use your finger to pull the trigger and shoot yourself. Don't guess the Gov could say anything. Don't guess you got much to say if you kill someone and the Gov sends you to Yeller Mama. You done sold your soul to the devil and the Gov is gonna fry you @$$.

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Re: Believing in abortion?

I happen to be friends with a couple who recently found out their child would have Trisomy 18 mosaic Q. As I understand it, this is the worst Down's syndrome possible. ALL body systems are effected. The babies live for a very short time, ranging from stillborn to a couple of months usually. This was a tragic situation, because they wanted a baby soooo bad, but they chose to terminate the pregnancy, and I agree with them 100%.

That being said, I can't see how the govt. could make abortion "legal for some" in cases of incest, rape or danger to the mother. If you are just stupid enough to get pregnant, you still should have the right to do what you feel you need to do.

I'm not saying that I could do it. Since I had a hysterectomy 17 years ago, it's a moot point.

IMO, if it's legal for some, it should be legal for all, and God has nothing to do with my opinion.

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