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Old 09-28-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Sassy Frass's Child Support Issue

After talking to Sassy Frass's friend MOM on the phone and getting details, it seems that DAD (if you want to call him that) is about 10 - 11 months behind on child support for three children @ $900/month ($300/month per child). That's a prettty hefty chunk of change! This does not include the interest that should/will be tacked on for late payments. What suprises me the most is that DAD has filed for a modification of child support citing he has no income. Knowing who he is, who his family is, and the businesses they own, assessing DAD's current living & family arrangements, and the fact that he has a child on the way with the new wife, I find it really hard to believe the boy is not gainfully employed or has no visible means of income. I think his filing for modification of child support is a BIG mistake on his part because when he gets in that courtroom and the judge finds out he's behind in his child support, he will most likely buy a trip to jail. If he tries to pull the "I have no job and no income" as a defense, the judge is going to look at all the same areas I have evaluated and see right through this smokescreen. If in fact the boy has no job, the judge will either tell him to find a job real quick or put him in jail and put him on work release until he gets his child support paid up. I think if or when the judge finds out Rusty Nichols has been cutting him some slack on this by putting MOM off will only sink dear old DAD deeper in trouble. IF Rusty Nichols has, in fact, been aiding and abetting deadbeat DAD in his efforts to evade his fiduciary responsibilities towards his children, he was wrong for doing so.

DAD has asked for a defined child visitation order, stating that MOM is refusing to let him have the children. He says (according to the court papers) that she is not allowing the children visitation with DAD. She on the other hand, tells me DAD is not putting forth the effort to see his children and wants MOM to go out of her way to facilitate visitation (ie: bring the children to him) instead of at least meeting her halfway, or if she brings them to him, he brings them home. She cites several instances where he was suppose to pick the children up on the weekend and either didn't show, or called and offered the children some lame excuse as to why he was not coming to get them.

MOM cited a recent phone call to one of the children from DAD where he outright told one of the children that their "Poppy" (grandfather) was dead. This was WRONG and TRAUMATIZING to the child! DAD should have had the decency to have told MOM about this and let her break the news to the children.

MOM has a few other tricks up her sleeve that I will not reveal here. I hope that MOM gets the justice she is looking for when she gets to court. She's gonna have an uphill battle in Marengo County because the deck is stacked against her here. It seems that DAD's family has some influence in the courthouse and is trying to pull some favorable treatment for what seems to be stacking up as an otherwise sorry excuse for a father. Then and again, maybe I should hold my judgement until I hear the other side of this story.

My advice to MOM in this issue is: Stick to your guns. You got him by the kahones regardless of what others tend to try to lead you to believe. Don't back down and don't take any sidebar or cut-rate settlements. Just be cool, work with your attorney (since DHR apparently is not going to step up to bat) and bide your time peacefully.

My advice to DAD based on what I know of this deal: GROW UP! You are acting like a selfish spoiled brat! You need to stop and think about what you are doing to your children! Regardless of what has happened between you and MOM, you are going to have to put your differences aside and work toward what's best for your children. If you continue your current course, when you get old and ready to die, you are going to have three children (and possibly four if you do with the new one on the way what you have done with the three you already have) that will let you go to your grave hating you and glad you're dead and gone. If you alienate your children, you may never know the joys of being a grandparent. You are most likely to die a miserable, lonely old man who died wishing he could go back and change it all. You can make the change now if you wanted to. Question is, are you still a immature spoiled brat child masquerading as a man, or are you a MAN? Should you choose immature spoiled brat child, then change nothing and continue to do what you're doing now. If you choose MAN, let's see you step up to the plate, make changes, and do what we know is the right thing to do without punishing the mother and the children.

As a footnote to this thread / post, I am struggling with the debate whether or not to pubicly identify the "Deadbeat Dad" in this case. DHR has "Deadbeat Dad Wanted Posters" for those who choose to shuck their responsibilities to their children. Nothing would be more embarrassing than for all his friends to know such a fiend lurks amongst them. I think if DAD's friends knew what he was doing to the ex-wife and children, they would exert peer pressure for him to step up and do the right thing.


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I don't know anything about liable laws or whether there could be any trouble if you identified him. You know a lot more about that than I do. But I would love to know who he is. Nothing makes me angrier than a man who won't support his children. Also, if he is using money and position to avoid his responsibilities, he deserves whatever bad publicity he gets.

I don't know who MOM's lawyer is, but if I were getting divorced or facing any issue like this, I would not use anyone but Wylene Gilmore in Clarke county. I have never met her, but her reputation is awesome. Maybe MOM could give her a call. You need a shark in a situation like this.

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In response to Roxanne's concerns about libel or slander, as long as what's said or published is the truth, there is NOTHING that can be done about it! As long as I am not intentionally misrepresenting facts, I am in the clear. Either I can identify him or DHR can put him up on a WANTED poster. One way or another this deadbeat needs to be exposed.

As for lawyers, rest assurred MOM has one of the best lawyers money can buy. MOM told me she has used Wylene Gilmore before, but was unhappy with the work she did for her previously. While Wylene Gilmore has the reputation of being a shark and a man-eater, she has a tendency to be lazy and drag her feet about getting her legal work done. I know this because MOM told me she did this to her. I also had a friend in Demopolis recently divorced and his ex-wife's lawyer was none other than Wylene Gilmore. Furthermore, that was one case where she didn't come out on top. I think my friend got the better deal in that divorce case!

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Great. I'm just glad she researched her options. I'll be glad to find out who he is whenever you get ready to tell!

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I have been reading the postings here for the past few weeks trying to decide if I wanted to register or not and well I guess you know what I decided to do..I have been reading about this situation and just wanted to send my prayers to the MOM.. I sincerly hope she can get this jerk to pay what he owes.. I know how if feels to have the cards against you and no help. people against you.

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If it were up to me,I'd plaster his *** up in as many public places as I possibly could in BOLD PRINT!Treating your kid bad is about the sorriest thing a so-called "man" could do.

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Where do MOM and Deadbeat Dad have child support court, Clarke Co or Marengo Co? Does Deadbeat Dad have a job of his own or does his family support him? Does MOM work?
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Court will have to be in Marengo County now that he filed a modification of child support days before DHR would have had it moved to her county. DHR can not do anything for her now, because of his QUICK FILING. She has obtained a lawyer that is anxious to get in court.

DADDY.........He has said many different things concerning his employment. His websites, which were deleted only weeks ago, stated his place of employment, not for himself. There are many different things that he could be doing. He will claim the one that is most likely to benifit him the most.

Mother Friend works in her town a few days a week helping to restore a home for a family. She's had sugery and health problems for the past couple of years and currently undergoing further testing.

She's very positive about this, I on the other hand feel as though she and those kids are going to get slammed again in Marengo Court.

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I'm totally new to Demopolislive but this is one subject near and dear to my heart. I have worked in the legal field for the past 10 years in another state, having relocated and began learning the Alabama legal system only 6 months ago.

First, Wylene Gilmore-Phillipe is not who I would use in a divorce/custody matter for the same reasons stated above. She seems to have too much on her plate to be able to devote the time each case deserves to that case and is, therefore, very slow to get things done. Although not all of it can be blamed on her. The system here is horrendous! In the state I moved from and all of my legal experience is in, divorces/custody/child support is taken care of post haste but here the system moves like molasses. It might be from the fact that there is only one (1) judge for 3 counties and he handles all circuit matters from criminal court to divorces. That is such a farce. How can anyone expect things to be done properly here....he (in our case, Judge Eddie Hardaway) has far too much to deal with. One day he's hearing the case of a murder in one county and the next he's in another county hearing about child support. Don't let me get started on the judicial system here....much less all the various forms of favoritism I have seen in my short 6 months. Oh geez!

Anyway, I am on both sides of the child support issue. I am a divorced mother of two teenage girls who's father fell 26 weeks behind in child support some time back (he was in rehab for part of that time and just being drunk and lazy the other part.) Now, he is remarried and pays his c/s like clockwork. Have I taken him to court to get the arrearage he owes me? No. If things ever get that tough for me (us), I will but I'm just glad to see his life back on track and that he's taking his responsibility seriously now. I am one exwife many men would be lucky to have because I do not gripe and I am understanding that we all fall on hard times. But if he ever chooses not to pay again just because he doesn't want to pay or if he's hiding money to keep his children from getting their share....I'll have his butt back in court so fast it will make your head spin.

On the other hand, my fiance's ex-wife gripes about her child support constantly. If he is 2 days late paying she's calling DHR to report him. She has no idea that his income has dropped since the divorce and that if he wanted to he could modify his child support down by 1/3 a month but because this man WANTS to take care of his child he's not done that...yet. Because he is constantly threatened with court for being 5 minutes late (always because of work) to pick his child up for visitation and those sorts of childish maneuvers, he will eventually get his fill and have his child support reduced. So she's shooting herself in the foot and doesn't even know it.

So I can see each side of the argument. I have watched legal battles over domestic matters every day for 10 years. No one knows totally what goes on in a case. Each party has a side and the truth generally lies somewhere in the middle. Not doubting MOM's story here, just saying that I don't know her situation, her Ex or his true situation nor what has transpired between them so it's hard to say "Go get the b*stard" without having seen the evidence first hand.

There are tons of men AND women who shirk there parental responsibilities and child support. If that is truly what MOM's Ex is doing then he should get slapped by Judge Hardaway for his neglect...but don't expect it to happen very fast, not around these parts.

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Someone kin to me told me this morning that Dead Beat Dad Spent the whole weekend at a race. That "Bama person" wrote, that he's sponsered, is it not true that a "sponser", if paying for expenses, would pay the racer also?
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Just to clarify things, Judge Hardaway does not normally handle the child support cases. Those are handled by Roseberry from
Hale County and he has proved to be very fair so far. Judge Hardaway only sits in on Child Support cases when Roseberry or Drinkard are not available for other reasons.
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When my fiance was scheduled for court on his child support issue back in July, it was Judge Hardaway he was to appear before. Judge Hardaway, as a norm, only passes cases to Judges Drinkard or Roseberry when they are uncontested matters (ie divorces, default judgments, child support, etc.) is what was told to me by my boss who has practiced law here for 42 years. And any judgments handed down are still his responsibility as the only sitting Circuit Judge in the 3 county area.

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Yea, but what's this judges record as far as c.s. cases. Someone has said he does not make these men pay back c.s. Someone else has said that Judge Hardaway is practicing the "you pay or you stay" idea, the same that the judge in Clark county. The day of court, dad has to pay up what's owed to his kids or he goes to the county jail until, whenever. I